Addendum: It has also bothered the hell out of me from the get go that the name of the film (Darnell) and Prayer Man, were never mentioned, before or during or after the hearing! Why not share that info with the public! Another part of the coverup!
Funny you should say that, When Larry Schnapf passed on information about the films to them, he got both names wrong.
Again - they should have had someone well-versed in the research on the alibi, and the history of efforts to get the films there at those hearings, But you only get in if you are a celebrity or a hanger-on of a celebrity. In the US, I can only think of two who could have done it. Ed Ledoux or Stan Dane. But of course, neither are celebrities. So we get an aged Stone who stumbled and stammered when it came to the films, and di Eugenio who didn't really say a lot. Then you get the person who said the most, who happens to have been opposed to getting the films from the get-go.
WOW did not know Schnapf got the film names wrong! What did he tell Luna? I Was under the impression from Bart that Stone or Jimmy Di passed along the PM/Darnell info to Luna. Also why not Barto? Nothing against Stan or Ed but Bart has done more work on PM than anyone and has written THE most up to date and top PM book.
Here is the heading of a thread by Schapf at the Ed Forum:
My Letter to Luna Today Worked. She Just Announced On Jessie Watters That She Is Asking NBC for the Wegman/Darnall Films!
It is clear from the thread that he believed he had spelled the names correctly.
It is good that something is happening. But it is disgraceful that those who got the ball rolling have been excluded Because the misinformation at the hearings would have been addressed, and most certainly basic stuff like misspelling the names of the two cameramen would never occur.
You laid out a very compelling case that Morley could be a CIA asset, spewing disinformation about about the JFKA, the Darnell Film, & Oswald and MC. Wow! I'm totally livid to see the evidence about Morley laid out like this! Thank you for this important takedown!
Rather than tell Luna for example that the Darnell Film "is NOT a definitive piece of evidence" and "It is NOT important to the JFK community" He could've gone into HONEST detail and said given the current poor quality multigeneration copies we have of it, it's not definitive...however, it's highly suggestive, and a digital scan of the Camera Original held by NBC could be definitive, so getting it is of paramount importance! He also could've said it is important to a LARGE group of JFKA researchers who have deeply studied it the over the last 15 years (although you could go all the back to Bernabei and Wiesburg) and he could've mentioned the recent best selling PM books by Stan Dane, and most importantly, Bart Kamp, so that the public could further read about it and make their own decisions about PM!...But no! He says it's basically useless, and "RESEARCERS" plural, aren't even interested in it. Total lies!
I want to comment on your calling out Jimmy di and Stone's, appearance at the Luna hearing when they had refused to help pry the Darnell and Wiegman films from NBC when folks asked them to a few years ago. I couldn't find that message so I'm posting this here.
I can add something to the story. After watching the 2 hr doc that Stone and Jim produced in which they had Whoopi Goldberg conclude Oswald was not on the 6th floor, based on Barry Ernest's account, I contacted Jim thru his website. I suggested that was the perfect spot to ask the followup question: then where was he?
They had not yet released their 4 hour version. I suggested simple, uncontroversial language they could use to answer the question, like: we don't know, but NBC has two films that might answer the question that they refuse to let anyone see. It was a springboard to a topic Stone has talked about before: the moral bankruptcy of the media.
I got no response from Jim. But then Stone went on Joe Rogan's show with its millions of viewers. Sure enough Rogan asked Stone, at about the one hour mark, well, then where was Oswald? Unprepared, Stone totally blew it. In the 2nd floor lunch room, he said. Showing Stone had no idea what he was talking about on several levels. Yet as you point out, Stone, Jim, and Morley are the people chosen to speak for all of us.
Btw, Luna also was set up to ask Stone if he thought she should ask NBC for the films (tho she said "copies" not the original) and he he said yes. So that much was accomplished and apparently the letter went out to NBC shortly thereafter.
Which brings up the question: has NBC responded and if so what did the say? The letter apparently was sent almost a month and half ago. What did Luna's the letter actually say? Did she make it clear she was asking as a member of Congress in order to enforce provisions of the JFK Act that had been long ignored, particularly by NBC? This wasn't like you or me asking. We were easy to ignore.
I asked Schnapf if he had seen letter's contents and he said no.
Do you, Greg, or anyone of your vast connections know if NBC has responded. I posted the question on Morley's site after he raised Trump's grad to a B+ during an article in which he discussed remaining records not released and never mentioned the D&W films . The only response I got that's a good question.
I posted on Luna's facebook page but that was a waste of time. We've been granted a small opening. I don't need to tell you how important it is to follow up on it.
Addendum: It has also bothered the hell out of me from the get go that the name of the film (Darnell) and Prayer Man, were never mentioned, before or during or after the hearing! Why not share that info with the public! Another part of the coverup!
Funny you should say that, When Larry Schnapf passed on information about the films to them, he got both names wrong.
Again - they should have had someone well-versed in the research on the alibi, and the history of efforts to get the films there at those hearings, But you only get in if you are a celebrity or a hanger-on of a celebrity. In the US, I can only think of two who could have done it. Ed Ledoux or Stan Dane. But of course, neither are celebrities. So we get an aged Stone who stumbled and stammered when it came to the films, and di Eugenio who didn't really say a lot. Then you get the person who said the most, who happens to have been opposed to getting the films from the get-go.
WOW did not know Schnapf got the film names wrong! What did he tell Luna? I Was under the impression from Bart that Stone or Jimmy Di passed along the PM/Darnell info to Luna. Also why not Barto? Nothing against Stan or Ed but Bart has done more work on PM than anyone and has written THE most up to date and top PM book.
The story about Schnapf is on the Ed Forum. He passed on info separately to Jimmy di and Stone.
Yes, I agree. Bart would be the guy. But I was thinking only of people living in the US. I doubt they would have flown anyone in from overseas for it.
Didn't know it was on the Ed Forum. I'm rarely on there now.
Shoot, I would've seriously paid for Bart's plane ticket, if they invited him and let the I'm talk! He's that important!
You're one of the good guys, that's why.
Here is the heading of a thread by Schapf at the Ed Forum:
My Letter to Luna Today Worked. She Just Announced On Jessie Watters That She Is Asking NBC for the Wegman/Darnall Films!
It is clear from the thread that he believed he had spelled the names correctly.
It is good that something is happening. But it is disgraceful that those who got the ball rolling have been excluded Because the misinformation at the hearings would have been addressed, and most certainly basic stuff like misspelling the names of the two cameramen would never occur.
And thank you for the "good guys" compliment, Greg! :)
LOL! "Wegman/Darnall" (sic). Totally agree we needed people there that know what they're talking about regarding the films and PM!
You laid out a very compelling case that Morley could be a CIA asset, spewing disinformation about about the JFKA, the Darnell Film, & Oswald and MC. Wow! I'm totally livid to see the evidence about Morley laid out like this! Thank you for this important takedown!
Rather than tell Luna for example that the Darnell Film "is NOT a definitive piece of evidence" and "It is NOT important to the JFK community" He could've gone into HONEST detail and said given the current poor quality multigeneration copies we have of it, it's not definitive...however, it's highly suggestive, and a digital scan of the Camera Original held by NBC could be definitive, so getting it is of paramount importance! He also could've said it is important to a LARGE group of JFKA researchers who have deeply studied it the over the last 15 years (although you could go all the back to Bernabei and Wiesburg) and he could've mentioned the recent best selling PM books by Stan Dane, and most importantly, Bart Kamp, so that the public could further read about it and make their own decisions about PM!...But no! He says it's basically useless, and "RESEARCERS" plural, aren't even interested in it. Total lies!
I want to comment on your calling out Jimmy di and Stone's, appearance at the Luna hearing when they had refused to help pry the Darnell and Wiegman films from NBC when folks asked them to a few years ago. I couldn't find that message so I'm posting this here.
I can add something to the story. After watching the 2 hr doc that Stone and Jim produced in which they had Whoopi Goldberg conclude Oswald was not on the 6th floor, based on Barry Ernest's account, I contacted Jim thru his website. I suggested that was the perfect spot to ask the followup question: then where was he?
They had not yet released their 4 hour version. I suggested simple, uncontroversial language they could use to answer the question, like: we don't know, but NBC has two films that might answer the question that they refuse to let anyone see. It was a springboard to a topic Stone has talked about before: the moral bankruptcy of the media.
I got no response from Jim. But then Stone went on Joe Rogan's show with its millions of viewers. Sure enough Rogan asked Stone, at about the one hour mark, well, then where was Oswald? Unprepared, Stone totally blew it. In the 2nd floor lunch room, he said. Showing Stone had no idea what he was talking about on several levels. Yet as you point out, Stone, Jim, and Morley are the people chosen to speak for all of us.
Btw, Luna also was set up to ask Stone if he thought she should ask NBC for the films (tho she said "copies" not the original) and he he said yes. So that much was accomplished and apparently the letter went out to NBC shortly thereafter.
Which brings up the question: has NBC responded and if so what did the say? The letter apparently was sent almost a month and half ago. What did Luna's the letter actually say? Did she make it clear she was asking as a member of Congress in order to enforce provisions of the JFK Act that had been long ignored, particularly by NBC? This wasn't like you or me asking. We were easy to ignore.
I asked Schnapf if he had seen letter's contents and he said no.
Do you, Greg, or anyone of your vast connections know if NBC has responded. I posted the question on Morley's site after he raised Trump's grad to a B+ during an article in which he discussed remaining records not released and never mentioned the D&W films . The only response I got that's a good question.
I posted on Luna's facebook page but that was a waste of time. We've been granted a small opening. I don't need to tell you how important it is to follow up on it.
That whole thing has the appearance of a shambles where no one seemed to have a full grasp of the facts.